The Nature of Sin and Salvation from a Gnostic Perspective



Account 1: an answer to a question no one asked:

A definition of “sin” is “to miss the mark.”
We sin because we’re made subject to vanity; we’re unable to achieve righteousness. The idea of not being able to achieve something is another way of saying “missing the mark” right?
Jesus Christ was sent into the world to save the WORLD: everybody who has ever lived. If he fails, If he cannot accomplish the one thing that he was sent into the world to do, then he will have sinned. The CORPOREAL world is insane by nature; by degrees sanity has broken through in the form of avatars. Jesus was a proxy, an avatar, as was Buddha and Elijah and Moses. Mouthpieces of truth in an ideally insane universe.

The one thing that one should very well realize though is that no bible translation is perfect. This coming from someone who owns the Latin Vulgate and recognize it as the definitive Christian text. The King James Version of 1611 had tens of thousands of errors corrected, and there are still more found in it today (and other bible translations as well—you name the bible translation, and there are errors in it. Some errors have far worse implications than others, though)–errors where they translate multiple Greek words as the same English word. The same word (hades (Greek) / Sheol (Hebrew) that the KJV translates into “grave” they also translate into “hell”. The same word that they translate into “an age” (i.e. an amount of time with a definite beginning and end, a limited amount of time) is also translated as “eternity”, “forever”, etc. This is totally, and completely poor translation. Think of it like this. An hour is a period of time that is limited. It has a beginning and end. Now, with the same word “hour,” do you think you could change the meaning of hour to “eternity”? This is the same thing that they do with the Greek word aionios. You’ll find all of this stuff out in more depth if you go to the page and you study it.

Men, acting as proxies for god, have deceived the WHOLE world. I’ve read straight (1+1=2) simple verses that spell out everything in completely simple terms yet people still don’t want to believe that everybody can be saved. To some people, they rely on the fact that people will be punished for not being like them. This is an attractive prospect indeed; people will be burning in the end and you can laugh and go “ha! I was right!” These are things that you just can’t argue and expect to win; their God has to give them the ability to see it and to understand.

One last question that I had that seemed to point out an obvious flaw in the way people think—
Why do people pray for other people? “I prayed that he’d make the right decision.” “I prayed that he’d pass his test” “I prayed that she’d marry me”
Why are they praying UNLESS they felt that God could change the choice that a person makes? Yet they feel that God has no control over us at all while they’re praying these prayers! It’s absolute nonsense.

God doesn’t force people to make choices, but he does bring about the events that cause people to make a choice. That’s what people don’t understand. Every single choice we make was caused. I drink soda “because” it tastes good. If it didn’t taste good, I wouldn’t drink it. That “choice” was there for me to drink it or not, but BECAUSE it tastes good, I drink it. If there was a reason that I shouldn’t drink it that outweighed the reason of good taste then I wouldn’t drink it. Sure we have a choice, but the choices are always caused. This idea is easily flawed in the sense that all human beings *cause* these events that force you to make a choice. Human beings made soda; they caused it to taste good. People respond to events caused by people that caused events in response to events caused by other PEOPLE. The only true sway over events that is out of reach of man, and sometimes it isn’t, is patterns of weather. Everything else regarding human society circles in cause and effect; people cause other people to produce causes that other people will use to turn into an effect.

Therefore, free will is exercised by people making choices based on inputs by other people that made choices. The same sort of relationships goes with every choice. There’s always one circumstance that will outweigh another circumstance, and the circumstance that “weighs” the most will be what caused us to make the choice. It also comes from within ourselves. We’re “made” a certain way. One person thinks that the drink tastes good, and then there’s another person who doesn’t. One person will make one choice, and the other person will make another choice depending on which circumstances they’re presented with and which one weighs the most. This in itself eliminates any possibility for free will, paradoxically by allowing people to freely choose that which will cause others to choose freely amongst the causes one makes, because we’re all affected by circumstances inside ourselves and outside of ourselves. I “chose” to kill him “because” I was beaten as a child, and the tendencies wore off on me to become violent. If there were no causes for anything, we would do nothing because we can’t make our own causes that weren’t caused themselves. No, but we make causes like the human beings that make causes for us. It’s all a circle of cause and effect within humanity and animals in the “lower” kingdoms. A snake caused me to be late for work, this is described by nature. A man called and told me to do something, he caused me to leave and by leaving I’ve created cause for other people to make choices that bring about, you guessed it, an open ended gesture.

Nobody is going to burn in some fabled hell fire while God is powerless to do anything about it even though he wills for all mankind to be saved. Apparently people think that he can’t even do his own will. Note also that we habitually think of god in human terms, as in a ‘he’ with emotions and feelings distinct to human beings. It would seem as though we’ve made him into our image, instead of the other way around. Apparently people think that God can’t bring about somebody to “change his or her mind”. I know that I’ve caused people to change their minds, but God is apparently powerless to do anything, they say.


(concordant literal new testament)

Col 1:18

And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia (ecclesia = church – the true church of Jesus Christ (not a physical church)), who is *Sovereign, Firstborn out from among the dead, that in all he may be becoming~ |first,

Col 1:19

That for in Him the entire complement delights to dwell,

Col 1:20

and through Him to reconcile *all into to Him (_making peace through the blood of His *cross), through Him, whether *those on the earth or *those in the heavens.

Okay, what does “reconcile” mean? (I thought this was pretty interesting and really helps to push the point)

• Verb 1 restore friendly relations between. 2 make or show to be compatible. 3 (reconcile to) make (someone) accept (a disagreeable thing).

Well, there goes that whole free-will choice. “People choose to be eternally tortured!” Well, even if they did such nonsense, God will “reconcile” them and make them accept him. But, this is all based on Christian text. What do the other religions of the world have to say regarding this? If one literary book based on God can be true, so can another. And if one is false – then why not both? A lot of gods claim the same territory. To believe that a god will alter a divine plan to fit the need of one above another, or speak to one above another, is grossly inaccurate.

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